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	<title>Comments on: Social Media Fundraising: Unsustainable, Scarcity-Based Begging?</title>
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		<title>By: GRHorst</title>
		<link>http://hildygottlieb.com/2009/02/08/social-media-fundraising-unsustainable-scarcity-based-begging/comment-page-1/#comment-31056</link>
		<dc:creator>GRHorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hildy,
Maybe we just started one of those relationships? My passion is just to bring people together and stop the divisiveness that seems to grow worse every day. We really need each other now more than ever. When I think of all the time and money that is wasted each day, when there are so many causes that barely get by, it just bothers me to no end. I realize this is extremely quixotic of me to think I can change the world via social media but I have to try something, lest I lose hope. I just know there are many, many good hearted people out there who have been marginalized by tradional media forums and have given up. I never give up, no matter what. It&#039;s just too important to the future of the world. I don&#039;t want to be remember as the generation that blew it. Thanks for making the effort to be someone who makes change happen. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hildy,<br />
Maybe we just started one of those relationships? My passion is just to bring people together and stop the divisiveness that seems to grow worse every day. We really need each other now more than ever. When I think of all the time and money that is wasted each day, when there are so many causes that barely get by, it just bothers me to no end. I realize this is extremely quixotic of me to think I can change the world via social media but I have to try something, lest I lose hope. I just know there are many, many good hearted people out there who have been marginalized by tradional media forums and have given up. I never give up, no matter what. It&#8217;s just too important to the future of the world. I don&#8217;t want to be remember as the generation that blew it. Thanks for making the effort to be someone who makes change happen. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Hildy</title>
		<link>http://hildygottlieb.com/2009/02/08/social-media-fundraising-unsustainable-scarcity-based-begging/comment-page-1/#comment-31054</link>
		<dc:creator>Hildy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GR: Yes absolutely! I also think you will find that the more you spend time in the social media arena, the more you will find it to be an excellent way to engage with people&#039;s hearts &amp; minds. I can speak personally for the real live friends and supporters with whom I have personally connected by engaging online.  Eventually, those relationships move from Twitter (as an example) to email to phone to in-person.  And that is all based on exactly what you are suggesting - real relationships based on shared passion.

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts here!
HG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GR: Yes absolutely! I also think you will find that the more you spend time in the social media arena, the more you will find it to be an excellent way to engage with people&#8217;s hearts &#038; minds. I can speak personally for the real live friends and supporters with whom I have personally connected by engaging online.  Eventually, those relationships move from Twitter (as an example) to email to phone to in-person.  And that is all based on exactly what you are suggesting &#8211; real relationships based on shared passion.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts here!<br />
HG</p>
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		<title>By: GRHorst</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRHorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hildy,
I&#039;m new to the fund raising world but it seems to me that we are missing the point when non-profits beg for money. We need to find ways to engage people, not just their checkbooks. By asking for money in lieu of active participation in our causes we are neglecting the most valuable part of the process, a real live person whose skills and ability are worth more than money. I believe the money will come more often from a person who truly cares and feels connected to a cause. Social media is a great way to introduce people to causes but it is lacking when it comes to involvement. I believe it is more valuable to have a person show up once a month to walk the dogs at the shelter than for them to just write a check. Unfortunately, we have become a society where participation is more easily achieved by financial means. It would seem obvious to me that in tough economic times more people would be willing to donate their time than their money. The result of that would be two-fold. They see the direct result of their effort (i.e one big smiling dog) and they feel connected to others who share their commitment. I know from personal experience that the most joy one can receive comes from spending time with people I care about and doing things that matter. Money helps but it will never be more important than humanity and a commitment to the common good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hildy,<br />
I&#8217;m new to the fund raising world but it seems to me that we are missing the point when non-profits beg for money. We need to find ways to engage people, not just their checkbooks. By asking for money in lieu of active participation in our causes we are neglecting the most valuable part of the process, a real live person whose skills and ability are worth more than money. I believe the money will come more often from a person who truly cares and feels connected to a cause. Social media is a great way to introduce people to causes but it is lacking when it comes to involvement. I believe it is more valuable to have a person show up once a month to walk the dogs at the shelter than for them to just write a check. Unfortunately, we have become a society where participation is more easily achieved by financial means. It would seem obvious to me that in tough economic times more people would be willing to donate their time than their money. The result of that would be two-fold. They see the direct result of their effort (i.e one big smiling dog) and they feel connected to others who share their commitment. I know from personal experience that the most joy one can receive comes from spending time with people I care about and doing things that matter. Money helps but it will never be more important than humanity and a commitment to the common good.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Parrish</title>
		<link>http://hildygottlieb.com/2009/02/08/social-media-fundraising-unsustainable-scarcity-based-begging/comment-page-1/#comment-30723</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Parrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This information has been very helpful. I have long throught that many non-profits are unable to create a real partnership with their donors. I am raising supporters to partner with me in order to teach English in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information has been very helpful. I have long throught that many non-profits are unable to create a real partnership with their donors. I am raising supporters to partner with me in order to teach English in China.</p>
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		<title>By: Hildy</title>
		<link>http://hildygottlieb.com/2009/02/08/social-media-fundraising-unsustainable-scarcity-based-begging/comment-page-1/#comment-29792</link>
		<dc:creator>Hildy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt:
Of course these efforts are done with good intent. We all want to do the right thing - it&#039;s just knowing what the right thing is that sometimes eludes us!

You may find some of the articles re: resource development in our online library helpful - you&#039;ll find the library here:
http://www.help4nonprofits.com/H4NP.htm
and the specific articles re: resource development here:
http://www.help4nonprofits.com/H4NP.htm#Fundraising

I hope that&#039;s helpful - and thank you so much for sharing your experiences!
Hildy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt:<br />
Of course these efforts are done with good intent. We all want to do the right thing &#8211; it&#8217;s just knowing what the right thing is that sometimes eludes us!</p>
<p>You may find some of the articles re: resource development in our online library helpful &#8211; you&#8217;ll find the library here:<br />
<a href="http://www.help4nonprofits.com/H4NP.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.help4nonprofits.com/H4NP.htm</a><br />
and the specific articles re: resource development here:<br />
<a href="http://www.help4nonprofits.com/H4NP.htm#Fundraising" rel="nofollow">http://www.help4nonprofits.com/H4NP.htm#Fundraising</a></p>
<p>I hope that&#8217;s helpful &#8211; and thank you so much for sharing your experiences!<br />
Hildy</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Greenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Greenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your informative post. I also appreciate your remark in the comments about these efforts being &quot;initiated out of good intent.&quot; That was certainly my plan when I started one of these for an event my church will be sponsoring toward the construction of another well in a region of the Sudan. My effort was as much toward the fund-raising as it was toward experimenting with these tools. My conclusion, quickly, is that something like a &quot;micropayment&quot; doesn&#039;t work. In any case, your points are good quite valuable to a relative newbie like myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your informative post. I also appreciate your remark in the comments about these efforts being &#8220;initiated out of good intent.&#8221; That was certainly my plan when I started one of these for an event my church will be sponsoring toward the construction of another well in a region of the Sudan. My effort was as much toward the fund-raising as it was toward experimenting with these tools. My conclusion, quickly, is that something like a &#8220;micropayment&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work. In any case, your points are good quite valuable to a relative newbie like myself.</p>
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		<title>By: marnie webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>marnie webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really *really* agree that this kind of fundraising doesn&#039;t result in sustainable change in support of the issue at hand. And I say that as someone that has done some twitter begging and certainly has responded to some.

Ultimately, I think these tools can be a way to bring attention to a cause -- giving deeper education and getting deeper commitment than you can do in 140 characters. Creating, in essence, the kind of relationships that Beth is talking about in her comments.

But there&#039;s another reason I worry about the sustainability model -- it doesn&#039;t build a financial fix into the system of change. So, it&#039;s wonderful for people to use Twitter to donate to food banks but even more wonderful would be how to figure sustainability into those programs at the grocery store -- so there&#039;s more of a link.

I think that it gets to easy to get busy with the kind of fundraising we all do all the time and not to get to building the relationships or building models that genuinely promote change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really *really* agree that this kind of fundraising doesn&#8217;t result in sustainable change in support of the issue at hand. And I say that as someone that has done some twitter begging and certainly has responded to some.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think these tools can be a way to bring attention to a cause &#8212; giving deeper education and getting deeper commitment than you can do in 140 characters. Creating, in essence, the kind of relationships that Beth is talking about in her comments.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s another reason I worry about the sustainability model &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t build a financial fix into the system of change. So, it&#8217;s wonderful for people to use Twitter to donate to food banks but even more wonderful would be how to figure sustainability into those programs at the grocery store &#8212; so there&#8217;s more of a link.</p>
<p>I think that it gets to easy to get busy with the kind of fundraising we all do all the time and not to get to building the relationships or building models that genuinely promote change.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth said.....&quot;I think that it isn’t the tools so much as how you use them.&quot;

Exactly.

Best,

Jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth said&#8230;..&#8221;I think that it isn’t the tools so much as how you use them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jack.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found the blog to be thought provoking and tapped into many of the same thoughts and concerns I had.  Also, found the responses from Beth and Jack added to the discussion. 

Also, thought your second response to Beth hit the nail on the head. While I applaud Beth for the success she has experienced, I do believe she is the &quot;exception to the rule&quot;. (I trust she laughed at the RockStar image.) Having been fundraising for 20+ years, I am often surprised at how good I am when I work at a well known charity and but sometimes &quot;not as good&quot; when I work at lesser known ones :) Name recognition and cache do play a role.  Will continue to Twitter @CentralNassau and add content to my Facebook page (for all 14 Fans) http://www.facebook.com/pages/Central-Nassau-Guidance-and-Counseling-Services-Inc/18669904091.

Best of luck to all and keep up the good work for the nonprofits you serve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found the blog to be thought provoking and tapped into many of the same thoughts and concerns I had.  Also, found the responses from Beth and Jack added to the discussion. </p>
<p>Also, thought your second response to Beth hit the nail on the head. While I applaud Beth for the success she has experienced, I do believe she is the &#8220;exception to the rule&#8221;. (I trust she laughed at the RockStar image.) Having been fundraising for 20+ years, I am often surprised at how good I am when I work at a well known charity and but sometimes &#8220;not as good&#8221; when I work at lesser known ones <img src='http://hildygottlieb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Name recognition and cache do play a role.  Will continue to Twitter @CentralNassau and add content to my Facebook page (for all 14 Fans) <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Central-Nassau-Guidance-and-Counseling-Services-Inc/18669904091" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Central-Nassau-Guidance-and-Counseling-Services-Inc/18669904091</a>.</p>
<p>Best of luck to all and keep up the good work for the nonprofits you serve!</p>
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		<title>By: Hildy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hildy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth:
Your comment here is the perfect example of what you do everywhere - build relationships. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and your experience here!

PS - Can&#039;t wait to hear how you like the book!
Hildy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth:<br />
Your comment here is the perfect example of what you do everywhere &#8211; build relationships. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and your experience here!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Can&#8217;t wait to hear how you like the book!<br />
Hildy</p>
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